As promised another exciting week as Alan welcomes back Dick Messer – Classic car expert and Executive Director at the Peterson Museum. With using and sending a link to Richard Rawlings from Fast and Loud and Gas Monkey Garage who shared it on his social media platform with 4.5 million followers and 2.5 hours later 10,000 views, Alan informs us that he sold his Shelby GT500 for a comfortable 115k. Alan inquires with Messer about the sale of his Parnelli Jones Mustang.  Messer shares that he used the same auto sites as Alan to help with his sale.  Alan shared how the gentleman who purchased the gem was sitting in the waiting room at a Ford Dealership browsing his phone looking at mustangs and Google popped up Alans GT500 and decided to bid on it twice.  This non-collector didn’t care about all the bells and whistles that this single digit serial number beauty had to offer, he just wanted to drive it. Alan and Messer continue about their car collection and plans for them.  Alan’s deep interest in Messer’s Bob Nordskog Datsun 240z car with a converted 350 Chevy engine got crushed when finding out it was sold.  However, Messer explains that collecting so many cars you end up not driving them all and as it sits, things corrode and deteriorate.  Then when you go to sell them, what wasn’t a problem before is now a problem.  Alan shared about his Dodge Viper ACR and his decision to put it on and were able to drop it for $136k. Both men share how much they miss the cars that they sell.  But it’s a lot of work, maintenance and money to keep them up.  Alan shares how he inherited a 2002 Thunderbird and says as he took it for a drive, issues that arose were obviously from it sitting too long without being driven.   The duo change gears and switch topics and talk about the car culture of Florida.  Messer says it’s better than California.  One of the reasons for Florida being a hot bed for car collectors is the taxes. From no state income tax to low registration fees/taxes.   Alan shares with Messer about to find out the value of vehicles like Messer’s 2005 SRT10 Viper Truck with 565 horsepower.  A great tool when you’re in the business of selling your vehicle.  Alan and Messer talk about how electric cars are great, but we lack the infrastructures needed to support them.  Messer talks about his 2006 all-natural gas-powered Honda and the infrastructures to fill it was basically obsolete.  Alan believes hybrids are the answer for a happy medium.  He goes on to say that people don’t like going to dealerships and the convenience of purchasing your car online is the new way to avoid the hustle.   Used cars are being sold now for the same price it was worth 2 years ago.  Alan discusses how you can buy a brand-new car and then turn around and sell it for thousands more.  Dealerships are in need of vehicles to keep up with supply and demand but that doesn’t mean you get the vehicle you want. Karl Brauer – Automotive Industry Analyst, Forbes Autos Contributor, North American Car and Truck of the Year juror and board member. Executive Analyst for and Executive Publisher at jumps in the driver’s seat to talk about Tesla’s earnings being knocked out of the park with over a billion dollars in profit. He say’s Tesla got a couple years profitability and is slowly becoming a real “car” automaker. Traditional automakers such as Ford who has owned the market for 40 years who designed the Ford F150 Lightning has set the bar for electric vehicles. The New York Auto Show is upcoming and wants Alan to talk about electric cars.  It took Alan a bit to answer and say what people need to know is the performance part of the electric vehicles is what’s to look at. When they made the F150 with a frunk (trunk in the front) it set the trend, much like the upcoming GMC Hummer with 1000 horsepower, from  0 to 60 in 3.5 seconds is another soon to be looked at. Karl’s take on electric vehicles says he is an undeniably forced fan of electric vehicles.  Depending on circumstances and what’s appropriate for the situation, electric vehicles, internal combustion engines to hydrogen engines all have their special purpose.  Ford F150 Lightning seems to have caught Alan’s attention with the wow factor, the “swiss army knife” of trucks.  He says a hybrid plug in version would be nice, like the Chevrolet Volt plug-in extended range electric vehicle.  One car with different kinds of drive trains will be the ultimate Karl says.  A Ford F350 Limited is what sits in Karl’s driveway.  No range anxiety there. Big load long distance hauling, range power torque and refuel time is untouchable in a Ford F350 Tremor to which Alan shares his adventure in driving that beast.  That’s a downfall for electric vehicles. It’s an either-or kind of situation.  For now!  Karl is all about getting in a car and going!  He shares his road trip with his wife from L.A. to Detroit, Michigan for the Ford GT parts run.  Alan reminisces about his long-distance drive to Indianapolis speedway with his family in a motorhome.  Good times!  More stories, more rev, more on what’s great in the world of automobiles coming next week when Alan returns with his auto contributors and special guest on “The Drive”.

[00:00:00] – Goodbye Shelby
[00:05:30] – Just Want To Drive It!
[00:12:31] – Car Collecting
[00:19:52] – Car Culture in Florida
[00:28:28] – Lack of Infrastructures
[00:35:54] – Online Purchasing
[00:48:25] – Knocked It Out of the Park
[00:54:46] – New York Auto Show
[01:02:07] – Swiss Army Knife of Trucks
[01:10:43] – Either Or!
[01:18:07] – Road Trips


Host: Alan Taylor
Producer: Dave Milligan
Audio Engineer: Dave Milligan
Copy Editor: Dave Milligan
Contributor: Karl Brauer Special Guest: Dick Messer


  • Contributor: Karl Brauer | Automotive Industry Analyst, Forbes Autos Contributor, North American Car and Truck of the Year juror and board member. Executive Analyst for and Executive Publisher at
  • Special Guest: Dick Messer | Classic Car Expert and Executive Director at the Peterson Museum

Vehicles Discussed:

Shelby GT Mustang, Ford F-150 Lightening, Ford F350 Limited, Ford F350 Tremor, Parnelli Jones Mustang, Bob Nordskog Datsun 240Z, Dodge Viper ACR, 2002 Thunderbird, 2005 SRT 10 Viper Truck, 2021 GMC Hummer, Chevrolet Volt


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